Why Mindful Exclusion Is Important To Inclusive Leaders [Interview with Justine Lutterodt]

Justine is the Founder of the Centre for Synchronous Leadership and judge for the UK Diversity Legal Awards and Workplace Gender Equality Awards.

In this rare interview she shares her considerable experience with us.


Here’s some key messages from this episode:

– Why “Mindful Exclusion” is important to leaders

– Why people who are different need to “bridge” in order to succeed

– The reason why leading an employee resource group tests leadership skills

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Here’s some key takeaways from this episode:

Mindful Exclusion can lead to better outcomes

“Inclusion is great when it’s done well, exclusion is great when it’s done well, in fact when it’s done well they become the same thing”

“Bridging” is required for minority groups to succeed

“People who are different have to bridge, if you want to be successful”

Leading Employee Resource Groups tests leadership skills

“Being a network leader is one of the best tests of being a leader because no one has to do what you say”

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– A challenge for you to consider

– An action for you to take

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Putting these together makes all the difference.


Here’s some resources so you can go deeper:

Justine Lutterodt on Linkedin 

Centre for Synchronous Leadership

Walk the Tight Rope

Centre for Synchronous Leadership Twitter

UK Diversity Legal Awards

Workplace Gender Equality Awards

The 30 Per Cent Club

The Diversity League Table: Legal Profession

Michael Porter

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